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it's john sununu. there's not much to it. obviously obama's not lazy and disengaged. >> he left a lot of facts on the side of the road last night. the people sitting at home were screaming at their tv sets. we can't ignore that. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did fine against john mccain but it wasn't acceptable. last night he clearly lost. one thing i'm hearing from democratic sources is he didn't end up with one of those moments that's going to haunt him. >> no, i don't think so. he doesn't lose any supporters and he certainly recovers from this, but we can't have any more like that. i say that. sam stein, e.j. dionne, great to have you with us tonight. >>> next, we debunk romney's $5 trillion tax lie with david k. johnston. stay with us. >>> mitt romney tried hard last night to make up ground with middle
it's john sununu. there's not much to it. obviously obama's not lazy and disengaged. >> he left a lot of facts on the side of the road last night. the people sitting at home were screaming at their tv sets. we can't ignore that. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did...
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. >> so this is part of the talking points of john sununu now the question comes from john sununu, does mitt romney agree with john sununu that barack obama is lazy. i think mitt romney ought to say something about that. but let's also keep in mind that john sununu is not the only person who was disrespectful of the president. let's remember jan brewer. and the health care speech september 9th, 2009, congressman joe wilson who yelled out you lie in the middle of a presidential speech, i think we had never seen anything like that before. so my question to you. being president is tough. democrats and progressives were pretty tough on george bush when he was in office. my question to you, the callers, was what happened with john sununu do people treat barack obama differently? or is this just a sign of the times? are people being too sensitive? all the time on twitter i hear from people who say you don't call him barack obama, you have to call him president barack obama, or president obama, and i think people should call him president obama, but sometimes i don't call george w. bush presid
. >> so this is part of the talking points of john sununu now the question comes from john sununu, does mitt romney agree with john sununu that barack obama is lazy. i think mitt romney ought to say something about that. but let's also keep in mind that john sununu is not the only person who was disrespectful of the president. let's remember jan brewer. and the health care speech september 9th, 2009, congressman joe wilson who yelled out you lie in the middle of a presidential speech, i...
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piling insult on top of self-inflicted injury, john sununu told msnbc's andrea mitchell -- >> what people saw last night i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> eliot: wow. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean the next debate unless the president wants to see this slip away from him. joining me now rolling stone national affairs correspondent tim dickinson and doug thornel democratic strategist, knickerbocker former spokesman for the democratic campaign committee and traveling press secretary for howard dean's 2004 presidential campaign. thank you both for joining us. it was not so much fun watching last night and today i kind of had the sense that we've read at different points in our lives about the seven stages of grief
piling insult on top of self-inflicted injury, john sununu told msnbc's andrea mitchell -- >> what people saw last night i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> eliot: wow. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david...
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because john sununu said he is lazy and stupid. romney walked back his own tax plan telling president obama and the american people he would not support a plan that cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class -- that is mathematically impossible. as i read the actual -- like thing romney said, he basically just said huh-uh because i say so. >> wow. >> stephanie: he said so there's no economist that says the plan adds $5 trillion if i say it won't. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. wow. okay. so and as i was always saying i thought axelrod said it right. he said the strategy was effective in the short-term vulnerable in the long term. romney gave a good performance, the problem is none of it was rooted in fact. he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romn
because john sununu said he is lazy and stupid. romney walked back his own tax plan telling president obama and the american people he would not support a plan that cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class -- that is mathematically impossible. as i read the actual -- like thing romney said, he basically just said huh-uh because i say so. >> wow. >> stephanie: he said so there's no economist that says the plan adds $5 trillion if i say it won't. [ applause ]...
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>> i shot john sununu eye think the president's lazy and disengaged. i think all of that is true. i don't want to dampen enthusiasm here. but knowing this campaign and having observed them, if they are going to accuse governor romney of murder and they are going to accuse him of being a tax cheat and say he wants dirty air and water and wants to throw granny over the cliff, i want everybody to realize that it's coming. they are going to drop whatever they have to drop as a means of trying to hang on to the helicopter, the house and the plane. and so, you know, it was interesting. chris matthews says our knives are out. governor romney referred, they want to kill romney. this is not a joke. they want to bury him. so i would prepare everybody, or warn everybody, that they better be prepared here. the best advice came from chris matthews. ought to be watching us. calling conservatives nazis or rip dick cheney's heart out, stomp on it, or call laura ingraham a slut. which part of their narrative do they want to adopt from nbc news. >> sean. >> yeah, yeah. you are absolutely right. of
>> i shot john sununu eye think the president's lazy and disengaged. i think all of that is true. i don't want to dampen enthusiasm here. but knowing this campaign and having observed them, if they are going to accuse governor romney of murder and they are going to accuse him of being a tax cheat and say he wants dirty air and water and wants to throw granny over the cliff, i want everybody to realize that it's coming. they are going to drop whatever they have to drop as a means of trying...
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